Voici une recherche d'identification, la photo suivante montre un navire à Ithaca.
Il semble être peint en gris naval mais a aussi son port d'enregistrement (Pirée) est écrit sur la poupe comme sur un navire commercial. Bien que enregistré au Pirée le drapeau apparaît comme un tricolore.
Malheureusement, la photo n'est pas datée et ne fournit aucune information supplémentaire. Je me demande si elle est un des navires nolisé par la France durant 1917-18...
Cordialement
Alain
Navire grec sous pavillon français à identifier
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Re: Navire grec sous pavillon français à identifier
Hello Alain,
this ship should be one of the patrol vessels built in Italy for the Greek custom in the '20. The name were A 1 / A 4. The flag of the vessel is not clear but could be Italian and hoisted during the transfer to Greece.
This should be anyway the patrol vessel A 1, I don't know why on the stern is written D 1, maybe a mistake in Italy......
Best regards
Marco Ghiglino
this ship should be one of the patrol vessels built in Italy for the Greek custom in the '20. The name were A 1 / A 4. The flag of the vessel is not clear but could be Italian and hoisted during the transfer to Greece.
This should be anyway the patrol vessel A 1, I don't know why on the stern is written D 1, maybe a mistake in Italy......
Best regards
Marco Ghiglino
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Re: Navire grec sous pavillon français à identifier
Merci napy pour cette identification
Cordialement
Alain
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Alain
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Re: Navire grec sous pavillon français à identifier
Marco is right in his identification, but the full explanation is given by Aris Bilalis in a topic in forum-marinearchiv:
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... 984.0.html
"First of all, the four Italian-built chasers, were not originally named A1-A4 but D1-D4 (Δ1-Δ4). Τhe letter "Δ" potentially meant "Διωξης"=Chaser. Under these names they were delivered to the Greek Customs, a department of the Greek Ministry of Finance, and operated in anti-smuggling duties. Hence, as they were not warships, they were registered like civilian ships are.
Attached (no.1) is a photo of D1 taken in Ithaki Island. One will note that the ship is not flying the Greek flag but the Italian flag which was apparently used for the delivery voyage. The assumption that the photo was taken during the delivery reason justifies why she has that extra barrel on the stern deck (for additional fuel) and why all these people are on board (visitors for the new vessel).
Secondly, when the ships were transferred from the Customs' to the Navy they took the names F (Φ) 1-F4. They were then renamed A1-A4 and are mentioned as such all the way until their loss."
The picture mentioned by Aris is the same posted by Alain in his question.
Cordialement
Klaus Günther
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/in ... 984.0.html
"First of all, the four Italian-built chasers, were not originally named A1-A4 but D1-D4 (Δ1-Δ4). Τhe letter "Δ" potentially meant "Διωξης"=Chaser. Under these names they were delivered to the Greek Customs, a department of the Greek Ministry of Finance, and operated in anti-smuggling duties. Hence, as they were not warships, they were registered like civilian ships are.
Attached (no.1) is a photo of D1 taken in Ithaki Island. One will note that the ship is not flying the Greek flag but the Italian flag which was apparently used for the delivery voyage. The assumption that the photo was taken during the delivery reason justifies why she has that extra barrel on the stern deck (for additional fuel) and why all these people are on board (visitors for the new vessel).
Secondly, when the ships were transferred from the Customs' to the Navy they took the names F (Φ) 1-F4. They were then renamed A1-A4 and are mentioned as such all the way until their loss."
The picture mentioned by Aris is the same posted by Alain in his question.
Cordialement
Klaus Günther
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Re: Navire grec sous pavillon français à identifier
Klaus is totally right, thanks alot for the full explanation.
Best regards
MArco
Best regards
MArco